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QPS Firewire CD-RW (16x)

© 3-22-01 David Schultz

  • Product: QPS Que! Fire CD-RW Drive 16x10x40
  • Date of Review: 3-23-01
  • Reviewer: David Schultz
  • Cost: $439. QPS is offering a $30 mail-in rebate through June 30, 2001.
  • Company: QPS.
  • URL: www.qps-inc.com
  • Contact: sales@qps-inc.com
  • Rating: 5 out 5 bites of the Apple -- very tasty!


Table of Contents

Several months ago QPS sent us a Que! Firewire CD-RW. We reviewed it here. It was the 8x4x32 drive. This time they sent us the latest, fastest drive they have, the Que! Fire 16x10x40 CD-RW. We were very anxious to get this drive and start our tests, for the experience we had with the 8x drive was so good (we were burning CDs within five minutes of opening it, never burning a single coaster), we couldn't wait to see what this baby could do. But there were problems. How we solved them is useful information, and so in this review we talk a great deal about setting up your system so you can use the drive. As it turns out, iTunes/Disc Burner, 9.1 and Toast don't like one another.

Installation was easy as always. There are no extra drivers to install since it uses Apple's own Firewire extensions. It is plug and play if you have Apple's drivers installed. You just need to install Toast that comes with it, unless you are using 9.1 and iTunes/Disc Burner and prefer those. And don't forget — it's Firewire! This means it is fast and reliable, given few tweaks as we will show.

In this review (and tutorial) we will look at several aspects of this drive, including using it with Disc Burner and iTunes, using it with Toast, and speed tests to see if in fact a 16x drive is twice as fast as an 8x drive. There was much trial and error in setting up things, but hopefully we can spare you, our dear readers, from both by telling our story.

The drive (see pic above), has the same, unique design as the earlier QPS drives. It is rather hard to describe, and they are bigger than one might expect (due to their rounded casings, which add about half an inch to either side of the drive itself). It sits fine atop a desk or a G4, though you'll have to set it on something or the tray will hit the G4's clear handle. The drives come with nice vinyl carrying cases with separate shoulder straps, and pockets for everything. Very cool. It comes with an AC adapter, a 1394 cable (a very solid and reliable one— never skimp on cables!), one media disk, the manual, and Toast 4.1.2. We especially like those carrying cases. They are sturdy and padded, and a joy to use. Now we don't go around carrying the CD-RW with us (we are not that mobile), but it's a nice bonus, as is Toast 4.1.2.


Patch it Up

It took us some time to get the drive working though. But QPS is not to blame for this. Though this is a hardware review, we feel that we should spend some time talking about how we had to set it up to get it to work. Otherwise, when you get one you'll wonder why we didn't mention it! Besides, hardware is as good as the software you use with it, and the problems we found were software based.

We said we had no problems with the 8x drive, but we did with this one. But something had changed on the G4, namely, we have upgraded to 9.1 and installed iTunes and Disc Burner. This added some extensions which caused some problems. Further, the drive is so new that it is not compatible with Disc Burner. QPS said it will be compatible in future versions though. The Que! Fire drive comes with Toast 4.1.2, as I said, so you don't need to wait for Disc Burner to catch up.

But there is a workaround for the impatient ones (like me!) who want to use Disc Burner (for data) and iTunes (for audio) right now ...

The drive comes with a Plextor mechanism [PX-W160A (MMC)]. Plextor mechanisms are known as some of the best out there. (However, one problem is that Plextor is slow to get Firmware updates out for Mac drives.) If you go to Apple's compatibility page for Disc Burner you will see that this mechanism is not included. Well, not to worry, because someone posted the required extension at www.xlr8yourmac.com. It is a ResEdit patched version of Apple's own drive extension ("PlextorCDR"). We installed it and it works great. Note: The more cautious out there might not want to do this, but we have had no problems whatsoever with the hack. To whomever did that — thanks. (But when the new driver comes out be sure to replace it just in case.)

After you have downloaded the patch it goes in the "System/Extensions/Authoring Support Files" folder. You can see I cleaned mine out to the bare necessities to keep conflicts and memory bloat down.

With that done it was time to figure out the compatibility problems between Toast and Disc Burner. Then we could burn to our heart's delight and see what this baby could do.


Working with Toast and Apple's Disc Burner

We plugged in the drive. It wasn't recognized by either Toast or Disc Burner. Weird. But a little research got things going.

Apple's Disc Burner and Toast are not compatible, for the extension sets conflict (oh hurry OS X!!). If I had both the Toast extensions installed AND the Disc Burner extensions installed then neither program would recognize and mount the drive. No burnin' nothin' dudes. Here is how you can get it working.

Apple says that if a drive is not being recognized by either a third party burner, like Toast, or by Disc Burner itself, then you should remove any extensions for the third party package you do not want to use. So go to the Extensions Manager and set to view as Packages. Deselect the Disc Burner package if you wish to use Toast, OR deselect the Toast Package if you wish to use Disc Burner. Simple enough. The following pictures tell the story:

Disc Burner/iTunes Extensions must be turned off to use Toast

Make sure this Package is disabled to use Toast.

When you disable it, make sure to keep the red-lined extensions on (see below).


Toast Extensions Must be turned off to use Disc Burner/iTunes

Make sure to disable this Package to use Disc Burner. The package may also include Toast USB drivers which we do not have installed.

You see, you can EITHER use Toast OR Disc Burner — not both, in order for the drive to be recognized and mounted. So you have set up the right extension sets and boot from a "Toast" set or an "iTunes/Disc Burner" set, or whatever you want to call them. Here is a guide to help (I hope!). The last two extensions are needed in either case for Firewire support, and the CarbonLib extension (not shown), is also needed to use the drive:


Now either Toast or Disc Burner will recognize the drive and burn away, depending on which extension set you use. (Note: Toast will run without the "Toast Extension," but you'll have to mount the CD-RW manually.) At least this all worked for us. The same goes for the 8x drive we have here: With both installed the drive wasn't recognized.

Let me say something about Apple's Disc Burner — it's cool, but slow. For example, if we took a 680 MB folder and dropped it on to the Desktop disk image of the CD, it took five minutes JUST to copy and prepare the disk image, and THEN you burn it. This adds a good deal of time (sometimes five minutes), to the process. This is the only downside to using Disc Burner (so far).

But I have to say that adding Disc Burner to the Mac, which makes a CD-RW work like any other drive on the Desktop, from within the Finder, is a wonderful thing — Steve did it again! Yes, it is slow, and the copying takes a long time, but a Disc Burner, which doesn't lock up the computer while you wait for the burn, is handy indeed. And burning audio CDs from within iTunes is a sheer joy. (You know, the more I use iTunes the more I like it.) This drive works perfectly with iTunes and Disc Burner once you have the patched driver and the extension sets right. It does get a bit noisy due to its rotational speed, but certainly nothing one cannot endure.

After you get this down you are ready to Rip, Mix and Burn until the cows come home (whatever that means).


Some Benchmarks

So the question is, "How does the Que! Fire 16x drive perform? Is it fast or not?" That is, is it twice as fast as the Que! 8x model?

In order to determine this we did some speed tests. Let me say something about them though.

We wanted to do three tests: burn data tests (just copying files), burn MP3 files tests, and burn an audio disk tests. With the last we wanted to test Toast against iTunes/Disc Burner in terms of speed. However, there was a problem. We made the play list and burned it in iTunes without fault. The same play list in Toast (same MP3 files), resulted in an error, "OS Error 9380." This was strange since the same MP3 files burned perfectly in iTunes. I have seen people talking about this in forums. Some say that one should run the "Test Speed" command in Toast and this will find any errors. Not so, for me anyway. Even running the Speed Test, which gave good results without errors, Toast still gave this error. Our Firmware is up to date, too, and this didn't seem to be a problem. It seems to be strictly a Toast problem. So we did some other tests, though we were not able to test exactly against iTunes and Toast. (We are currently building a play list that will test burn in both so we can do the more extensive tests.) But in doing separate burns without actual timing iTunes did seem slower than Toast.

The moral of this story is that burning audio CDs from iTunes using Apple's Disc Burner is much more stable and reliable than burning them in Toast, but a bit slower (just initial impressions).

The tests were performed on a G4 ("Sawtooth") AGP with the Que! Fire drive plugged into the native 1394 port of the G4. We are running OS 9.1 with 384 MB of memory. We have the latest versions of all software, including Apple's Firewire Drivers 4.7 (though the drive worked with 4.5 as well).

The first test we did was simply to take a folder and fill it up with files, all kinds of files, and burn it. The folder's size was 685MB. At 8x the burn should take approximately 10:00 minutes, and at 16x it should take approximately 5:00 minutes. We used Toast in the tests. We started the timing when we clicked "Burn CD ..." and stopped the timing when Toast said it was done. We did NOT measure the verifying time. We did several of these burns and the numbers came out approximately the same each time. The numbers we give below are from a typical burn. We let the numbers speak for themselves:

As you can see, the 16x drive we have is approximately twice as fast as the 8x drive. This, folks, is one very fast drive compared to its former incarnation. And in fact it does burn at roughly 16x when doing simple data burns.

But when it comes to burning an audio disk the story is different. We consistently got results in which the 16x was NOT twice as fast as the 8x, and neither did it burn at 16x. We took a 44 minute play list and burned an audio CD in Toast. Theoretically this should burn at 3:15 on a 16x drive and 6:30 on an 8x drive. Here are the numbers:

There is more encoding going on when one burns an audio CD and this explains the slow down. Toast decompresses the MP3's as it burns them. If you want it to burn at top speed, convert the MP3's to AIFF format, then burn those. But it is a fact of life that burning audio CDs is slower due to software. Be that as it may, the 16x drive performed slower in this test than we expected. Some 16x drives slow to 12x in this test and the QPS Que! Fire was slower than this.

The moral to this story? If you are backing up and archiving then the 16x drive is a joy to use; if you want to use it just for burning audio CDs the speed gains are less. Is it worth it? Well, a two minute increase can add up if you do a lot of it. Any speed increase is a good speed increase in our opinion. But it depends on your priorities and goals in using such a drive (and your savings account!).

If you want some further benchmarks, see the ones done at www.barefeats.com. Rob-Art Morgan does a fine job over there.


Closing Remarks

This drive is stable and reliable once you figure out how to set up your system. It took us a few days to get everything working right mostly because we wanted to use iTunes/Disc Burner. But once you do have things set up right the only problems we have encountered (burning roughly 20-30 CDs in our testing), is with corrupt MP3 files and Toast's oddities. I have decided to use only iTunes for audio CDs, and since then we have not had one "coaster." I use Toast for data burns however because it is quicker.

Files are getting larger and tasks more demanding because we have hardware that can handle them. Apple is helping with iTunes, iDVD and iMovie. Desktop CD-RWs are going to be more needful over the next year. If you want one that can do the job quickly, this drive is for you. Its looks, performance, the little extras you get like the shoulder bag, and Toast (which despite its oddities is still fine), this drive is a fine investment. At $399 (with a $30 rebate) it is not cheap. But it is a matter of priorities and budgets. If you need and can afford it, then get it.

A Note on Media

I will never use a floppy again, and that was decided long ago. And with CD-RW media dirt cheap the Zip drive is forming cobwebs (well, that was an exaggeration, but not much). As for media, I swear by Imation CDs 700MB/80MIN. They have a fifty-count 16x compatible CD-RW spindle and packages of ten in jewel cases. Fifty disks on a spindle go for about $25 bucks, and the ten-count 16x with jewel cases go for around $7. All in all, it costs about fifty cents a piece (extra with a case) for a CD. In the same way that you should never, ever skimp on memory and Firewire cables (you DO get what you pay for), never, ever skimp on CD media. If you do, then invite the town over, for you'll have coasters for all! With media this cheap and drives this fast, there is no longer any reason to wait — start burning now.

Be sure to check out Charles W. Moore's review of the same drive at Applelinks.


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Appendix: How to Burn a Data CD in the Finder Using Apple's Disc Burner

Quick Tutorial: Burning Data CDs with Apple's Disc Burner

The steps to take burning a data CD-RW in 9.1 with Disc Burner are very easy.

  • Insert a CD-R.

  • A dialog will appear asking if you want to prepare (initialize) the disk for burn.

  • It gives three choices:Standard, iTunes and MP3.

  • Choose the right format from the drop down menu. In this case, "Standard."

  • Drag the files you want to burn to the disk that shows up after preparation/initialization.

  • The data (files and folders) will be copied to the prepared disk. [Note: it takes a while with a lot of data — 5 minutes for 689MB for example. This is the biggest downside of using Disc Burner.]

  • When you have all the files on the disk, select the disk on the desktop.

  • Go to the "Special" Menu within the Finder, and select "Burn CD ..."

  • You will get a dialogue box confirming your choice.

  • The disk will be burned by Disc Burner. After that it will show up on your Desktop, with a Firewire label and all.

Now be at peace knowing that your data has been backed up and will live longer than you ever will.



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